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Post by gregory on Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:51 am

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Albino on Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:35 am

Hammerstein comics look

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by gregory on Wed Mar 04, 2015 7:11 am

^ not the approach we're taking design wise, but still a great design.

I edited the first post with the McMahon design we're basing the figure off of
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Post by Albino on Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:51 pm

McMahon design is so different Shocked , they are like heavy metal gods.

Pretty cool iron soldiers.

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by BPP on Thu Mar 05, 2015 5:44 am

gregory wrote:^ not the approach we're taking design wise, but still a great design.

I edited the first post with the McMahon design we're basing the figure off of

Gotta love all the Hammersteins but yup.. McMahon is the best.

Now tell us we're getting the alt- 'rugby-ball' head as an accessory!

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Ming on Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:33 pm

More info transfer...

HAMMERSTEIN

Next in line (as far as we know) for a 3A x 2000AD release, so it's time for a thread.  I'll keep this spoiler-free for the most part, and give links to trade collections at the end of the post(s).  I've tried to cover the bases for most of the early appearances of Hammerstein as this is presumably the main inspiration behind the 3A figures.  Ro-Busters (and Ro-Jaws) and the early ABC Warriors stories feature heavily, but I'll follow up with later ABC Warriors stuff from The Black Hole onwards (and a few other bits and pieces).

Kev O'Neill:
   

The Background Part One: RO-BUSTERS
A classic Pat Mills creation dating back to the short-lived sister publication to 2000AD, Star Lord (http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=covers&page=other&choice=starlord).  Hammerstein first appeared with his partner Ro-Jaws in Ro-Busters (the names being a play on the songwriting duo Rogers & Hammerstein).  This really began as a rip-off of the old Gerry Anderson Thunderbirds TV series, with a crew of robots engaged in disaster rescue (the crew was assembled by buying up various surplus and used robots).  Pat Mills put his own unique twist on the set-up, including heavy doses of humour, social commentary, the psychotic Mek-Quake and the fact the whole enterprise was run for profit by the (literally) heartless Howard Quartz, aka Mr Ten Per-Cent.

Carlos Pino (from the very first episode of Ro-Busters)


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Kev O'Neill
   


Although involved in Ro-Busters as a disaster rescue droid, Hammerstein had in the past been a war-droid, which worked it's way into the story on several occasions.  His appearance in Ro-Busters was different to the way we know him from the ABC Warriors; in Ro-Busters he carries around a 'spare head' from his war-droid days and this is the look we associate with Hammerstein for the most part.  Basically, Hammerstein has two different heads; one 'later' Ro-Busters head and an earlier ABC Warriors / war-droid head (Jimbo will be along to explain the intricacies of Pat Mill's timelines shortly, I hope).  Hammerstein has been portrayed slightly differently by various artists over the years, including the helmet-less look and the battle-damaged 'dreadlock' look introduced by Simon Bisley, but the chances are we'll see a 3A version based on the earliest appearances and designs of Kev O'Neill and Mick McMahon.  Other characteristic features of Hammerstein are the combat hammer and tracked feet - definitely a complex design and something I think 3A will handle extremely well.  

More Kev O'Neill
       

Mek-Quake: sadistic, psychotic, and with more than a few screws loose...
   


After Star Lord merged with 2000AD in Prog 86 (October 1978), Ro-Busters was one of the strips that was kept, and it continued to appear pretty much every week until it ended in June 1979 (Prog 115).  To start with, Ro-Busters in 2000AD continued the rescue set-up, but went on to explore Hammerstein's war-droid past and then developed further.  Towards the end, the direction Ro-Busters took in 2000AD was very different from its beginnings in Star Lord; the robot disaster rescue squad set-up evolved into a story about oppression and a fight for robot freedom.  We also got a couple of Alan Moore scripted one-offs in annuals (early 1908s).  Art for Ro-Busters in Star Lord was provided by Carlos Pino Jose Luis Ferrer, Dave Gibbons, Kev O'Neill and one of my favourite artists, Ian Kennedy.  In 2000AD, art came from Kev O'Neill, Dave Gibbons, Mike McMahon and Mike Dorey, with Steve Dillon doing the art on the later Alan Moore one-offs.  Pat Mills is in the process of filling in the blanks in Hammerstein's back-story in the ABC Warriors series running in 2000AD right now (Clint Langley on art duties) and it's great stuff!


Ro-Jaws & Hammerstein; the happy couple (again, Kev O'Neill):
   

Mick McMahon




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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Ming on Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:34 pm

...and more


The Background Part Two: THE ABC WARRIORS
After Ro-Busters ended, Hammerstein returned as leader of the ABC Warriors, another Pat Mills-crafted series beginning in Prog 119 (June 1979) a few weeks after Ro-Busters ended. The original run of the series lasted for just the next 22 weeks (ending in Prog 139) but made a huge impression on the readership (as well as a generation of creators) and is considered one of the classic strips to emerge from 2000AD.

A pair of classic covers from the series of Titan reprints...

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'ABC Warriors' are the robot soldiers created to withstand 'Atomic, Bacterial and Chemical warfare' in the war against the Volgans (i.e. near-future-fascist-Russians), although the term has since become synonymous with the group of seven robots led by Hammerstein. The basic premise for the original ABC Warriors strip can be summed up as follows: An elite team of robots is assembled, under of the direction of a mysterious quasi-military figure, to undertake an even more mysterious mission. The initial set-up is a very familiar one, but features some fantastic moments and incredible artwork (and remember this stuff was published in the late 1970s as one of several strips in a weekly comic aimed predominantly at eight year old boys). Recruited first (jointly with Happy Shrapnel and Joe Pineapples), Hammerstein acts as team leader and was responsible (Magnificent Seven-style) for collecting the diverse set of robots for the squad (willing or not).

Kev O'Neill


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It was in the ABC Warriors that Hammerstein picked up the nickname 'Old Red-Eyes' (a nickname used by Happy Shrapnel in the very first episode; I'm hoping this translates to LED-lit eyes in the 3A figure, like we saw for Real Steel 'bots) and he basically forms the conscience of the group; he's always had human-like emotions that can be relied on (or exploited by the likes of Blackblood). Hammerstein revolted against his human commanders right at the start of the strip, causing the death of his ruthless commanding officer and setting him on the path to joining the Meknificent Seven.

After being put though his paces by a mysterious new human commander, Hammerstein is tasked with recruiting the rest of the ABC crew. In addition to Hammerstein, Happy Shrapnel and Joe Pineapples, The Meknificent Seven comprised (in order of appearance) Mongrol, Deadlock, Blackblood and Steelhorn / The Mess.

Mick McMahon




Once the group of seven is assembled, their task is revealed by Colonel Lash: to tame the 'devil planet', Mars. There, they encountered cybo-whales, sand oceans, garganteks, warring corporations, hum pies, cyboons, soya-bean cowboys, Hell Kickstart and the Boomtown Brats, the Red Death, tyrannosaurs like Golgotha and, best of all, Mad George, Colossus of Mars…

Dave Gibbons


Mick McMahon



During the fight against the tyrannosaur Golgotha Hammerstein was betrayed by Blackblood (this kind of thing becomes something of a recurring theme) but he puts both in their place quickly enough. After cleaning up Mars (or at least a sizeable chunk of it), the ABC Warriors departed from the pages of 2000AD until 1984…

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Mick McMahon - Mad George





COMING NEXT:

The Background Part Three: NEMESIS THE WARLOCK
The Gothic Empire, The Vengeance of Thoth, Torquemurder

The Background Part Four: THE ABC WARRIORS:
The Black Hole, Khronicles of Khaos and Hellbringer
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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Knightjar on Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:59 pm

Great stuff! Thanks for preserving that.
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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Wellsybeer on Sat May 09, 2015 8:56 pm

Can't wait for Hammerstein!!!

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by koonfasa on Thu May 14, 2015 9:18 pm

hmmm, I'm wondering.
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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Ming on Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:52 pm

gregory wrote:Hammerstein is proving to be a tougher nut to crack, the sculpt is off, so we're really cracking on it to make him look just right, did another pass last night which'll get it in the right direction. Should make it right on time for 3rd quarter

...how's Old Red Eyes coming along?
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Re: Hammerstein

Post by gregory on Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:56 pm

That pass got the sculpt going in the right direction, but the real key details aren't there yet. Ash is working on the turns currently. We're trying to get him done before the 3AA year is up, but in all likelihood Hammerstein will happen in 2016. We've got some cool stuff lined up for end of this year and beginning of next year that'll help ease the wait until Red Eyes is ready.

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by Ming on Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:26 pm

Thanks, as always, for the update, gregory! No hurry on any of these as far as I''m concerned; we'd all rather get them done right than fast, and judging (no pun intended) by the way Dredd and the Lawmaster are shaping up, people will have plenty to drool over in the meantime.

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by PiggyV01 on Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:09 pm

Gregory, what do you think the chances of the ABC warriors making it to 1/12 or the 1/6 line picking up again are? I'm just debating whether to track them down on the aftermarket and which scale to pursue.

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by PiggyV01 on Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:31 pm

Did we ever learn which seven ABC's were intended for the original 1/6 line? And is there any Hammerstein (or any ABC) news?

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Re: Hammerstein

Post by gregory on Mon Jul 18, 2016 3:31 am

Ash is still working on the design turns. Hammerstein is important for him and he wants to get it right. We have a sculpt, but it needs an overhaul.


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